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ABA Conference in Las Vegas brings together fertility lawyers from across the globe

Monday, October 31st, 2011

Natalie and Helen were delighted to attend the American Bar Association’s Family and Assisted Reproductive Technologies (ART) conference in Las Vegas (26-29 October 2011).  The conference brought together the world’s leading experts in assisted reproduction and surrogacy law, with lawyers from many US states (where laws vary enormously), Germany, Italy, Canada, Australia, the Ukraine, India, Brazil and Greece.  Natalie was invited to speak about English law at a packed session, and was proud to represent the UK alongside leading fertility law experts from Germany, Italy, Australia and Canada.

The ABA conference comes at a key time, with the Hague Conference putting surrogacy on its agenda for international regulation, as well as increasing numbers of clients crossing borders for surrogacy and ART.  We were thrilled to meet so many professionals who, like us, understand and care passionately about helping people build families successfully.  It was abundantly clear that surrogacy lawyers across the globe need to play a key role, both in helping parents get the best legal protection and recognition possible (while national laws are so disastrously mismatched), and in advocating more widely at an international level as a voice for those conceiving in alternative ways.

Thank you to the American Bar Association for hosting such an inspiring international conference, which we know will be just the first step in building a strong international community of advocates for alternative families.

More information about international surrogacy law is available on our website and in particular check out our area for non-UK advisors and US attorneys.

An interesting perspective on the HFEA’s decision from the USA

Friday, October 21st, 2011

We thought some of you may be interested in this response to the HFEA’s decision from Julie Shapiro in the USA, who writes an excellent blog on assisted reproduction law at http://julieshapiro.wordpress.com/

And The Right Price Is……..$1200

My last post was triggered in part by the then-impending announcement by the HFEA of adjustments to the monies provided to those who provide gametes in the UK.   Yesterday’s Guardian reports the result of the HFEA’s deliberations:  Egg donors will now receive compensation in the amount of 750 pounds (which is about $1200.)

It’s interesting to think about what the HFEA was trying to do here and it seems to me that the way it’s talked about is fundamentally different from how I’ve been thinking about it.   I’ve been talking about simple economics–if you offer more money, you get more sellers.   Here the government is fixing a price and trying to strike the right price to increase supply adequately.   The alternative–which exists in the US–is largely unregulated market where the ordinary laws of supply and demand set prices.

But the HFEA (and others quoted in the argument) see this quite differently.  They talk about trying to balance between altruism (which is the right reason to provide gametes) and more base motives–like financial greed or need.   From this perspective, you don’t want to offer too much money or you’ll get people acting for the wrong reason.  But you don’t want to deter the altruistic, since there are real hardships to providing gametes.   Consider this quote:

Professor Lisa Jardine, the HFEA’s chairman, denied that the £750 payment would induce people to donate eggs purely for money. “I find it very hard to see the £750 as an inducement,” she said. “I think it is a fair reflection of the effort and the time and the discomfort and the pain of some of it. I can’t see any room there for inducement.”

The concern about motives morphs into something slightly different later in the article:

Clare Lewis-Jones, chief executive of Infertility Network UK, said: “We hope that today’s announcement to increase the payment to donors will help encourage more people to become donors. The balance between coercing people to donate by offering large sums of money, and paying enough to ensure donors are compensated for their expenses and the wonderful gift they are giving is a fine one.”

The concern raised here–coercion–is one that resurfaces in other quotes.

Laura Witjens, chair of the National Gamete Donation Trust (NGDT), said: “No amount of money will ever repay what an egg donor does to help childless couples. This priceless gift changes lives and donors truly do it to help others. The NGDT believes that altruistic motives should remain at the core of donation and that payment, although intended as an expression of gratitude, should never facilitate coercion.

Now it seems to me that everyone agrees that altruism is good and is what they want to encourage.   But the countervailing concern seems to shift from bad motives (doing it for the money) to coercion and ”coercion” seems an odd concept here.  Frankly, offering a lot of money for something doesn’t fit my general idea of coercion.   But I suppose the connection is that if you offer a lot of money and if women need money, then women will be compelled to take the offered money.     Thus, economic need is the instrument by which coercion becomes effective.  I think this rather strains the meaning of the language.

Apart from this, there’s a problem with the HFEA thinking.   Most of what I’ve read suggests that most women who become gamete donors–like most women who become surrogates–do so for mixed motives.   It’s pretty rare to see the wealthy in either group–which suggests that people who do not need money choose not to do these things.  But the women who provide eggs or become surrogates do seem (generally speaking) to be motivated in part by altruism as well as by an interest in the compensation.

This suggests to me that the HFEA’s careful balancing is based on a false assumption–that one acts for altruism or one acts for money but not for both.  If most women have mixed motivations then what becomes of the balancing?  When motivations are mixed no line can be drawn between altruism and financial need/desire.   And there’s no way of measuring whether you’ve done it right.  In time we will be able to tell how much the increased compensation affects the supply of eggs, but I’m not sure we’ll ever be able to tell

http://julieshapiro.wordpress.com/

HFEA shift on donor payments will make little difference

Thursday, October 20th, 2011

The HFEA announced yesterday that, after an extensive public consultation and review, the system for paying egg and sperm donors in the UK is changing.  Instead of donors being paid out of pocket expenses plus an allowance for loss of earnings of up to £250, egg donors will now be paid a blanket £750 per cycle, and sperm donors £35 per visit.

There was much discussion yesterday about the new payment to egg donors of £750 and whether this would encourage women to donate eggs for the money who wouldn’t otherwise have done so.

However, if we understand the HFEA’s press release correctly, this seems to be a bit of a misunderstanding.  The new figure of £750 does not seem to be an increase on the existing £250 cap, but rather a change of how the system works.  Women used to be able to claim their actual (unlimited) out of pocket expenses plus an allowance of £250 to represent (nominally) loss of earnings.  They can now claim £750 to cover everything, no matter what their actual expenses are.  In practice we know that expenses during an egg donation process can mount up very quickly, covering things like travel, drugs, the cost of scans and blood tests at a local hospital, childcare and time off work for consultations, counselling, scans and egg collection.  It’s not an easy or an inexpensive process.  The HFEA’s new rule therefore may not mean more money for donors, just a simpler way of dealing with expenses.  We think the change is less significant than it sounds, and will make little difference to donors or recipients in practice.

However, if nothing else, we hope that all this discussion about donation in the media will encourage donors to come forward.  Working with both donors and recipients, we know how much the donation process involves and we know what a life changing difference donation makes to people’s lives.  We salute all the donors in the UK who go through this to help others become families and we hope they know how very much they are appreciated.

There is more information about donation in the UK on our website.

 

 

International surrogacy parents speak to the World at One

Tuesday, October 11th, 2011

Parents Michelle and Paul (names changed) spoke to BBC Radio 4′s World at One today about their experiences of international surrogacy, and the problems with surrogacy law in the UK.  Their legal case (in which we represented them successfully) was reported anonymously by the High Court last December (as Re L (a minor) 2010) and received national press coverage at the time.  Michelle and Paul took the brave decision today to speak about their personal experiences, in order to highlight the difficulties they have faced.

As Michelle and Paul explained, they entered into a surrogacy arrangement in Illinois after a very long and difficult journey of failed IVF and miscarriages.  They did so in accordance with the law in Illinois and underwent a thorough vetting process with a clear legal procedure designed to protect all involved.  Under Illinois law, they were treated as the legal parents of their child from the outset. 

However, UK law treated their surrogate and her husband as the legal parents, despite the fact that neither had any biological connection with the child.  Michelle and Paul therefore needed an English High Court order to become Mum and Dad in the UK. 

One of the key issues for the court here to consider was the mismatch between UK and Illinois law regarding the issue of payments  to their surrogate.  In Illinois, payments for a surrogate’s inconvenience and discomfort can legitimately be made, although payments for a child are not allowed.  In the UK, the law refers to ‘reasonable expenses’ (with no definition of what that means) but confusingly also gives the court a specific power to ‘authorise’ other payments.  Ultimately in this case Mr Justice Hedley, noting that Michelle and Paul were the ‘most careful and conscientious of parents’, agreed to authorise the payments so that they could be approved as legal parents.  However, he did not accept that the inconvenience payments to their surrogate were reasonable expenses. 

It’s a story with a happy outcome, but one which shows that working out what is acceptable to pay for surrogacy at home and abroad is tricky. 

In Illinois there is a clear legal framework in which payments are agreed and set out in writing at the outset (following counselling, psychological assessments and legal advice for all).   If everything is done correctly at the outset, then the child is a part of the intended parents’ family throughout.

There is no such certainty under UK law.   Every judge can interpret what is ‘reasonable’ differently, and the issue will only be considered after the birth of the child when the payments have been long since made, by which time there will always be tremendous pressure on the court to make an order protecting the child’s welfare.  As Michelle pointed out so poignantly, the value paid to the surrogate in this case was in fact no more than what has been accepted as being reasonable expenses for surrogacy in the UK, but it was not considered expenses in their case because the arrangement was an international one set up within a different legal framework. 

We are left asking – where the values being paid for surrogacy are comparable, does it make any sense to treat them differently just because they are called compensation rather than expenses, and just because they are agreed in writing at the outset?  Would it not be better to have a more upfront system in the UK which resolves these issues at the start, rather than after the event?  

You can hear the interview at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qptc

There is more information about international surrogacy law on our website.